Re-invigorating the 'maloomaat' concept via SMS

In light of the greater responsiveness of SMS in formulating public opinion in AJK (Azad Jammu Kashmir - also referred to as P-A-K Pakistani-administered Kashmir or P-O-K Pakistani Occupied Kashmir), I've decided to put up my SMS interaction online (though I won't be mentioning names - to protect the public's privacy).

Please also refer to my blog post:

12/6/19

SMS Democracy Makes a Comeback at the Dead (yet alive) End of 2019

2134hrs:

Hitting the post button on this particular blog will bring back many memories of the pre Whatsapp era. 

This was my SMS question to 130 co-citizens today:

'Awaami Assembly' (People's Assembly) ko kaise bayan karengey AJK ke tanazur me? (How would you define it in the context of AJK?) 3 jumlo ki had tak. (in max. 3 sentences) Shukrya - (Thank you)


Responses:


(Note: Any translation in brackets is my emphasis to clarify and assist the reader in understanding the Urdu text) 

1)

میرے خیال میں موجودہ اسمبلی جو قطعا عوامی نہیں تو تحریکی تناظر میں آذاد عوامی یا پھر انقلابی اسمبلی.  جو کہ پہلے 
بھی تھی  کو توڑ کر یہ ڈمی اسمبلی بنائ گئ تھی



یعنی بحالی انقلابی اسمبلی بایس اکتوبر والی


    اب ہم اس کو توڑی گئ اسمبلی کا راوو بھی کہ سکتے ہیں 

Translation:


In my opinion, the current Assembly is not the people's in any manner, in the context of the (freedom) movement a free public or revolutionary Assembly (is required), which existed before (but) was destroyed and replaced by a dummy Assembly.  


In other words, to reinstate the revolutionary Assembly of 22nd October.


Now we can call this a review of the destroyed Assembly.


2) 

آپنے وسائل پر آپنا اختیار
آپنی ریاست میں آپنا نصاب 
آپنے جوانوں کی آپنی فوج

Translation:

Our own control over our own resources
Our own (educational) curriculum in our own State
Our own army of our youth

3)
jnb ya kia kuch smj ne ai kia sentence hain ya

Translation:

Esquire, what is this? I cannot understand these sentences.

4)
In sha Allah I'll reply you very soon.

5)
Out of service

6)
wo assambly jo awam ko bunyadi insani haqoq day or her shahri mahzbi bunyad pay azad ho

Translation:

That Assembly which provides basic (fundamental) human rights and in which every citizen is free to worship (or hold religious affiliation as he/she may choose)

7)
Ye Pak K Zery Under Kathputli Assembly Hy .Jo Reyasti Jaber Kee Ulamat Hy

Translation:

This is a puppet Assembly under Pakistani control, which is a symbol of State oppression.

8)
قانون ساز اسمبلی ایک برائے نام اسمبلی ہے۔
جموں کشمیر کے نام پر سیاست کرنے کے لیے اسمبلی کا قیام عمل میں آیا۔
اس میں موجود تمام ممبران کو GHQ راولپنڈی  سلیکٹ کرتی ہے۔

Translation:

This is a legislative Assembly only in name.
It was formed just to play politics in the name of Jammu Kashmir.
GHQ (General Head Quarters) in Rawalpindi selects all members present here (in this Assembly)

9)
In Ajk people's assembly is "collection of corruption".

10) 
Kashmir ki awami assambly 1 darama ha jo islamabad sa chalaya jata ha.
Yaha pa baithy hoy apny apny aaqaou ki awaz  sunty han jo pakistan sa ati ha.
Agr is assambly ki koi apni taqat ho to jo party wafaq ma govt ma ati ha wohe idr kbi na ayy.

Translation:

The people's Assembly in Kashmir is a drama which is driven from Islamabad (Pakistan).
Each of those sitting (in this Assembly) listen to their respective master's voices who come from Pakistan.
If this Assembly had any power of its own then that party which comes into power in (Pakistan's) federation would never come (enter) here.  

11)
آج تک کی کاوشوں کا جائیزہ ہداف کاواضع تعین کرنا  عوام کو یکجا کرنا دنیا کی ہمدردی حاصل  کرنا

Translation:

An analysis of all efforts to date 
Targets to be set in a clarified manner 
Creating solidarity among the public
Obtaining the sympathy of the world 

12)
Assembly elected by the people through adult franchise.

13)
Awam ki assembly awam k zariye awam k liye

Translation:

The people's Assembly
Via the people
For the people

.......

The following responses were received via Whatsapp:

1)
Ap ka swal e glt a sir ajk m awame assamble ha e nai to jwb ksa
Awame assable ya ajk ka stats kya ha asa swal kren to jwb ml skta a
Ajk m awame assemaly ha e ne byan kya ho ge.

Translation:


Your question itself is wrong sir, there is no people's Assembly in AJK so how can I give an answer
If you put the  question as to what is a people's Assembly or what is the status of AJK, then an answer can be given
There is no people's Assembly in AJK at all, how can it be defined? 

2)

Something on the lines of : People assembly by the citizens of J&K for the citizens

3)

عوام کی خواہشات کی آئینہ دار توقعات و حقوق کی محافظ عوام سےمنتخب کردہ اسمبلی

Translation:


A reflection of the public's aspirations. A guardian of their expectations and rights. An Assembly elected by the public.  

4)

کسی بھی اسمبلی میں سلیکٹ ہونےوالے اپنے ملک کی عوام اور ملک کی فلاح و بہبود کے زمہدار ہوتے ہیں مگر اے جے کے کی اسمبلی میں سلیکٹ ہو کر جانے والے ہر ایک نے اپنی کرسی کو بچانے کی خاطر اپنے خطے کو نظر انداز کرتے ہوئے قابضوں سے وفاداری نبھا کر اسمبلی کو ایک کاروبار بنا دیا ہے۔

Translation:


Those who are selected elected) in any Assembly are responsible for the success and welfare of the public and country. However, every (single) one of those who are selected (elected) to enter the AJK Assembly neglect (ignore) their territory (constituency) while fulfilling their loyal duty to the occupiers. They have thus made (converted) the Assembly into a business, in order to save their chair (seat). 


5)
اپنے عوام، اپنا قانون، اپنا جھنڈا، اپنی اسمبلی 
جن کی کوئی آواز نہیں سنتا وہ خود اپنی آواز بنیں
خدا نے آج تک اس قوم کی حالت نہیں بدلی 
نہ ہو خیال جس کو آپ اپنی حالت بدلنے کا

Translation:

Our public, our law, our flag, our Assembly
Those whose voices are not heard by anybody should become their own voice
The Almighty has to date not changed the conditions (circumstances) of that nation
That doesn't ponder over how to change its own conditions (circumstances)

6)
A decentralised, democratic, public governance Institution for empowering people voices to inform and influence decisions at strategic level and safeguarding people interests at local level.

7)
The Awami Assembly is to protect the rights of the people of AJK and internationally  promote the idea of reunification of the erstwhile state of Jammu Kashmir.

8)
تنویر صاحب آداب امید مزاج بخیر ہونگے ۔ آپ کے سوال کا مختصر جواب نمبر 1. کسی خاص مسلہ یا مسائل کے حل کے لیے لوگوں کا مجتمع ہونا عوامی اسمبلی  کہلاتا ہے ۔ نمبر2. قومی اور ملکی معاملات چلانے  کے لیے  جمہوری قواعد وضوابط کے عین مطابق رائے دہی کے ذریعے منتخب ہونے والے افراد کا مجموعہ عوامی اسمبلی کہلاتا ہے

Translation:

Tanveer Sahaab Greetings (with etiquette) and I hope you are well. A brief answer to your question. 
1) A public gathering for a specific issue or for a range of issues is called a People's Assembly. 2) To handle affairs at a public (and/or) national (level) according to democratic rules and regulations via public opinion polling, the sum of those elected people is called a People's Assembly.  

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12/8/11

15/10/11
Question:
If AJK decides to adopt it's own currency - in the interim while it establishes it's own central bank - which of the following currencies should it use?
Swiss Franc, Chinese Yuan or British Pound?

(Urdu)
Agar AJK apna sikha apnaaney ka faisla karta hay, to aboori tor par - jab tak hamaara markazi khazana nahee qa-im hota, in me se kis sikhey ko istimaal karna chahiye?
Swiss Franc, Chinese Yuan ya British Pound?

Note: The amount of people polled will remain constant at 250 until further notice.

Responses:

Swiss Franc - 1

Chinese Yuan - 7

British Pound - 5

none - 2

Other responses:

- I think ajk asea kre he nhe saktey ya khud kisi ka khana pr chaltay yaney pak ka kana pr

- Koei sika nehi istemaal krna chahye 1899 tk jo sika tha usey bahal kia jaex

- May be soudi currency is the best

- Pakistani Rs

- Rupaya theak ne

- No one – Kashmiri

- It is difficult in current situation if the hole state of jk becomes then think about our currency

- PAKISTANI

- Zehnu ko mafloaj kiya hai zulam ki kali Andhi ne - Azadi ka deep jalane ghr se kon nikalta hai
Rait smndr Sehra prbat sb hi rasta Rokhain gy - Daikhna hai sath hmare kon kahan tk chalta hai,
We want freedom,JKSLF, FREEDOM FIGHTER,KHAN BHAI,

- Asooli tor pr hmara sikka KASHMIRI DOLLAR hona chahiay mgr arzi to pr hmen hr muamlay ma china ki pervi krni chahiay, system smait.

- Pak Rupee till own sika

- Sir kaise hain ap' main ne to socha shayad ap bhool gay hn gay.laikan ap ne muje yad rakha shukria.kidar hain aur kaise hain plz tell me

Message sent:
Previous msg's sent by Tanveer Ahmed Civil Society Forum - AJK as part of an SMS opinion poll conducted by maloomaat.net

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10/16/11

14/10/11
Question: (sent to about 20 friends in the early hours of the morning whilst working, all of whom are well-versed in Urdu)


Kashmir soh rahaa hay - kya - ? - hum jaag rahey hay


Translation: - Is - Kashmir sleeping - ? - I'm awake




Responses:


"Kashmir zamany sy soh rahaa  ha  eshee wajah sy kashmir ki ya haalet ha aghr kashmir jagh rahaa hota toh aaj saari duniya soh rehee hotee laken jaghtay woh hen joh apnay allah ko tlaash kr ry hotay hen"


"G kmr so raha hai Atiq aur Majeed ke reaya bhangda dal rahay hain"


"We were also sleeping."


"Kashmir kay sirf 1 percent activist jaag rahay hain. Yes 99 % soraha hain"


"Yes. You are."


"Mere baei, kashmir nehe, pura PAKISTAN so raha hai. Mere heyal mein. Its about time we did too. Jokes aside, we've been part of Pakistan before the "Partition" so why should'nt we be now? It's only because "Jinnah" had a dream but so did Malcam X. The difference is; Mr X made a change Jinnah did'nt. If Kashmir did become a indipendant State where will we get our daily bread or shalwar kameez from? China is it? By the way, is there a road coming from China to Kashmir? Can I get a Visa from the Chinees embassay with my British Passport (in PAKISTAN)? We need infrastucture before we talk about "INDIPENDENCE"


A couple of conversations:


1)

- Ham soty aa rhy hain' kashmir to sadyon sy jag rha hai  hmary jagny ka mumtzir hai. 


- Gud ! aj ham 2 ho gy hain aik din ho ga pory kashmir main rahny waly logo ki bheer jag kr bil akhir 1 qoum ban jye  gi.tb kashmir ko azad hony se koi taqat rok na pye gi. 


- Tanveer bhai ap koi apni political party bnain ya phir pahly se mojod mukhlis party main shamil ho k amli tor pe kashmir cause k lye kam krain .


MR: (My Response) 
Me amli tor par hi kar rahaa hoo. Baees October ko Muzaffarabad me public forum karoonga.


- Yeh sb decide krwany k lye koi plateform b to ho na. jis se pakiz se baat ho 


MR:
Me Pakistan kabhi nahee jaoonga jab tak hamara baa-hami relationship waazey na ho. Shayed us ke baad bhi nahee!- 


2)

ME:
Me Pakistan kabhi nahee jaoonga jab tak hamara baa-hami relationship waazey na ho. Shayed us ke baad bhi nahee!  


- Dnt be raceist,1 umma,1 brother   hood ,life too short,work 4 islam, 


MR: 
I work for awareness, tolerance, conflict-resolution, the progress and prosperity of humanity. I simply can't afford anything else. I'd rather discuss the after-life when I get there. Besides, the Pakis r not a race. 


- Mbe u r going 2 create mre cnflct,being muslim u hav 2 practice islam b 4 u die, we r all frm adams race


MR: 
Peace can never be established by ignorance. My relationship with Allah is my personal matter. I will never allow another human being to dictate matters of a public nature to me without him/her being accountable to public consensus.


- Islam is enlightentment,islam is 4 whole society & not just personal,allah dictates&not public opinion   :sharia: alah knows beter our needs,salam
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